New Cloudfone Thrill 430x
*credits goes to various tcp posters from the original thread*
*this FAQ is created by wuli68, reposted and edited by me
GENERAL INFO (Updated as of Dec 1)
ellearhsa posted on November 27, 2012 08:17 PM
FAQs - please edit/add/comment if may mali or additional info
1. What is the antutu benchmark score?
unrooted: 5504-5518 just a little bit below Samsung S2 and above LG Optimus 2x - photo here: http://dc402.4shared.com/img/ZKRvjFCg/s7/0.7857005983018841/IMAG1339.jpg
2. Is the 4000+ mah battery real?
Yes. 4160 mah to be exact. A regular smartphone has 1500-2100 mah (Iphone5, s3). Lasts 3 days on minimal use, 2 days regular use, 1 day for abusive use. (Data based on several users' experience)
3. Is there a dedicated camera button?
Yes. Half-press to focus. Soft-touch.
4. Dual core?
5. How long is the charging time?
6 hours if you use the stock charger. Other users reported that chargers for tablets/pads can be used for faster charging time.
6. How much?
7. Rebranded phone?
Yes, original from china is called Innos D9. See link for more details - http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://unbox.xda.cn/html/list/196.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://unbox.xda.cn/html/list/196.html%26hl%3Den%26tbo%3Dd%26biw%3D1920%26bih%3D979&sa=X&ei=PlivUMblFofBiQeAyIDwAg&ved=0CC4Q7gEwAA
8. What is the video recording resolution?
Up to 720 p (Must change camera settings). Sample video taken using thrill here:
Not yet set to 720 p - https://www.dropbox.com/s/c1p36we2tvpzhx4/VID_20121120_221258.3gp
Set to 720 p - https://www.dropbox.com/lightbox/home/Public
9. Stock charger capacity?
Output of charger is 5.0V - 1A.
10. Camera resolution?
Back: 7.7 MP, no antishake, with auto-focus, with panorama. Users reported a second or two delay when taking photos. Very strong LED flash.
Front: VGA, not very good for indoor shots.
11. How many touchpoint?
12. With FM radio?
Yes. Must connect headset. Stock headset decent. Speaker sound decent.
13. Screen resolution?
960x540, sticker-like (based from several users) - clear and crisp even when viewing from an angle. (angle shot from ocgekawna: http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae76/marketman24/IMG_20121123_225725.jpg?t=1353685677 and http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae76/marketman24/IMG_20121123_225755.jpg?t=1353685666), (screen shot comparison with flare by Sniperw0lf http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/kriscia/DSC07755.jpg)
14. Is this really thick and heavy?
Yes. If you are used to the light and thin smartphones of these days. 14.2 mm thickness, 180 g weight. Do you remember your Nokia 3310? The thickness of that one is 22 mm. How about the Nokia 5110? That weighs 170 g. Here's a comparison of Thickness with the CM Flare courtesy of Sniperw0lf http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/kriscia/DSC07753.jpg)
15. Capacitive buttons?
There's 3 but they don't light up.
16. LED notification?
17. USB OTG capable?
Not yet determined. Stock NO, some talented people are trying to get this to work. We'll see. By the way, you can still access the SD card and internal memory when you connect this to a PC. USB OTG means something more and from what I read refers to attaching things to the phone such as a PSP controller. (Correct me if I'm wrong please)
19. Stock android?
Yes. Stock apps are not impressive. Browser has been reported to be really terrible.
20. How is the make?
Plastic, but solid as brick. No cheap feel. No creaky parts. Back has a nice-looking and rough anti-scratch design.
21. Does PPSSPP work on this?
22. Are HD games playable?
Yes. Not recommended for Tegra games. But a lot of games are working flawlessly.
23. Connects with bluetooth accessories?
Yes. Reported to have been connected to bluetooth headsets and the dashboard(??) of a chevy cruze without any problem.
24. Is web browsing okay?
Yes, smooth, clear screen, but change change change the browser, don't use stock.
Depends on the store probably but so far users were given 1 year for unit, 6 months accessories, 7 days replacement.
26. Root procedure available?
Yes. Link from "Ocgekawna" of TipidCP - http://www.droidiser.com/2012/10/how-to-root-spice-mi-500.html#
Link from boybato99 of TipidCP- http://bbs.gfan.com/forum-1181-1.html
*please use chrome and translate to english if needed
27. Will this get a jelly bean update?
Not sure, but the chinese manufacturer for Innos D9 said there would be. According to 3-4 users they were told that the update will void the warranty. (I really wish there's a way I can find the website that said this but it's too hard because everything's in chinese)
28. Is it true that the screen response is slow?
No. 30+ users testify the response is really good, with or without screen protector. Here's a video made by one of the users: (ocgekawna): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p9qJALANDw&feature=youtu.be
29. How can I capture the screen?
Hold down lock button and volume down button at the same time for about 1-2 seconds.
30. Does the bundled charger really explode?
There are 2 reported incidents in tipidcp. The charger make really does look cheap, it is the kind where there's a usb cable that you can connect to the main part of the charger. Users opt to use chargers from other brand phones. Please note that while the charger did explode on those 2 occassions, the phone remained unharmed.
31. Does GPS work on this phone?
Yes. There were 2 users who reported that after turning the GPS on and and opening Maps, their location was identified right away. One user (me) stated that location shown is just a few meters from actual (which is the norm for most smart phones).
32. Is there a problem with using 3g?
There is no easy setting to force the phone to use a specific data signal but there is an App you can download to do this. (Phone Info App according to bananarepublik - Go to Phone Information, SIM 1 Slot, then choose "WCDMA Only" - to get the best signal). Or you can also do a manual check of the network and there should be options showing where you can select 2g or 3g - according to ocgekawna). Some reported fluctuating signals in different locations. Some reported good speed for both 3G use and hotspot. Some reported that 3g speed is terrible compared to other devices used in the same location. Note that this will depend on Network strength, location and for use as hotspot, the other device's capacity. Please note that only Sim 1 slot has 3g capacity.
33. How is the speaker and headset sound?
Speaker and headset sound decent and comparable to normal smartphones.
33. When you send a text message does it give you sim options? How does this work?
When you compose a new message, yes it gives you the options. For replies, it will use the sim card where you received the message. You are also given sim options when placing a call. The simcard toolkit are separated into 2 icons named sim toolkit and sim2 toolkit.
34. Can we use credit card to buy this?
Yes, in locations such as Megamall and Hello stores in different locations. Some offer 0% interest, some will increase the price when you use a credit card to purchase. Varying info so can't give any specifics.
35. Why is the tactile feedback and keyboard sound not working even when the vibrate on keypress and sound are enabled?
Go to Settings>Language and Input>Android Keyboard Settings>Advance Settings>Keypress Vibration Settings and increase the rate. Default is set at 0.
36. Is there an unboxing video?
Here's one but it's chinese: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDU2MDMxNjQ4.html?bcsi_scan_97e98328e2b67804=h14QhrY3QyXq9odGsG8tz2vyl4knAAAAzOkVNg==&bcsi_scan_filename=id_XNDU2MDMxNjQ4.html
37. Is screen protector included when you buy it?
Yes. Peel the first plastic cover on top and beneath it is the real screen protector. Don't be fooled like me all the while I thought the first cover was the screen protector (haha!).
38. Can we use any headset on thrill?
No. Headsets with play/pause options from other branded phones were reported to have problems when used on thrill (wired, static, noise). Normal headsets used on regular stuff (cd player, walkman, radio [do these things still exist?] - actually work well on it. Stock headset is decent too.
Direct link to Kestana's review
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Unboxing and Demo link of Cloudfone 430x
XXIX posted on December 01, 2012 11:22 AM
Direct Link to the Unboxing Link
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Direct Link to the Demo
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ocgekawna posted on November 22, 2012 09:28 PM
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Direct link to the rooting method used by ocgekawna
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VladTaltos posted on November 30, 2012 04:43 PM
Para sa may issues with memory cards, try looking for branded micro sdhc's from mall based shops (like PC Hub or Octagon -competitive naman pricing nila). The higher the class kasi mas mabilis mag-transfer ng files at mas mabilis din ang pag-acces ng phone sa mga apps.
Micro SDHC cards I've tested so far:
1. 2 GB Kingston Class 4
2. 8 GB Kingston Class 4
3. 16 GB Ridata Class 10
4. 16 GB Silicon Power Class 10
5. 16 GB Transcend Class 10 Ulitmate
6. 16 GB Sandisk Class 10
7. 32 GB Strontium Class 10
8. 32 GB G. Skill Class 10
9. 32 GB Apacer Class 10 (installed right now) P1,500 lang ang kuha ko at 1 year warranty pa (sa iba kasi 6 months na lang)
List of Metro Manila Service Centers
czhyril posted on November 27, 2012 09:56 PM
List of service centers NCR
Head Office-Unit 102, Jafer Place Bldg., #19 Eisenhower St., North Greenhills San Juan, Metro Manila
Vmall- Unit V361d vmall, GSC San Juan City
Antipolo- Express Repair CZK 202 SM CITY Masinag Marcos Hiway, Mayamot, Antipolo
Antipolo- Unit 4,Victory Park And Shop, M.L. Quezon Antipolo City
Bicutan-Express Repair ,Unit K002 P (A) Cyberzone SM City Bicutan, Don Bosco, Paranaque City, M.M
Fairview- 2nd flr., Space 225 SM City, Fairview Lagro, D2, Quezon City
Farmers Cubao- Space 02064 2nd level , New Farmer's Plaza Cubao, Quezon City
SM CITY NORTH- EXPRESS REPAIR Tech Kiosk #12 SM City North, Edsa North Ave. Cor. Edsa , Que. City
SM CUBAO -Lower Ground Floor,Space 0005, Cyberzone, SM Cubao, Araneta Center, Quezon City
SM CITY MANILA -Express Repair, CZK SM City Manila, Concepcion St. cor. Arroceros & San Marcelino St., Manila
SM MARIKINA- Unit 121-122 GF,Cyberzone , SM Marikina City
SM MEGAMALL- Express Repair,KC 408 4TH Flr. Bldg. B, SM Megamall Ortigas J. Vargas ave., Mandaluyong City
SM SAN LAZARO MANILA- 3rd. Flr. 365 SM City San Lazaro, Manila
SM MESA RESIDENCES- WS 124 SM MESA RESIDENCES Cor. Aurora Blvd. - Araneta Ave.,Sta. Mesa, Q. C.
SM STA. MESA- 305A 3rd. Flr. SM City Sta. Mesa cor. Aurora Blvd. - Araneta Ave. , Quezon City
SM SOUTHMALL- Express Repair,K303 SM Southmall, Alabang Zapote Rd. Almanza Uno, LasPinas City
STA. LUCIA MALL CAINTA- 2nd Level Phase I, Sta. Lucia East Grand Mall Marcos Hiway cor. Felix Ave., Cainta, Rizal
SM VALENZUELA- EXPRESS REPAIR 311a Sm City Valenzuela,Brgy. Karuhatan Valenzuela, M.M.
List of Service Centers Outside Metro Manila (Page 45)
czhyril posted on November 27, 2012 10:03 PM
List of service center OUTSIDE MANILA
LAOAG -#13 J.P. Rizal St., Brgy 14, Laoag City Infront of Laoag Central Elementary Sch.
BATAC ILOCOS NORTE -Plaza Maestro Bldg.,Brgy. 10-N Lacub Batac, Ilocos Norte
NEPOMALL DAGUPAN- Nepomall ,Arellano St., Dagupan City
OLONGAPO CITY #50 Magsaysay Drive Olongapo City
APALIT PAMPANGA -3rd Flr. SM Savemore Market,McArthur Hiway San vicente,Apalit Pampanga
BULACAN- Unit 292a/292b 2nd Flr. SM Marilao,Km 21 Brgy. Ibayo McArthur Hiway,Marilao, Bulacan
SM BACOOR-3rd Flr, Space 3020 SM Bacoor Gen. Aguinaldo Hiway Cor. Tirona Hiway,Bacoor,Cavite
BATANGAS CITY -Caedo Commercial Center, Batangas City GF , Calicanto, Batangas City
SM LUCENA CITY 3rd Level Cyberzone, SM City Lucena Dalahican Rd. Cor. Maharlika HighWay Ibabang dupay, Lucena City
SM CEBU Airtouch AIRTOUCH Samsung Service Center Level 2, Cyberzone,SM City Cebu,NRA,Cebu City
AYALA MALL CEBU Airtouch JUNREX G/F Metro Ayala, Ayala Center, Cebu
ILOILO CITY G-16B Gaisano City, Luna St. Lapaz, Iloilo City
ILOILO CITY Rm 123 Marymart Mall Centre III Valeria St., Iloilo City
CAGAYAN DE ORO CITY 2nd Level, Gateway Tower, Limketkai Cagayan de Oro City
SURIGAO CITY Rocha Bldg., Borromeo St. Taft, Surigao City
YAN PO LAHAT NG LIST NG SERVICE CENTER SANA PO MAKATULONG....
wuli68 Send Message View User Items on December 03, 2012 12:06 PM
Comparison of Battery Size, Charger Output, Approximate Charging Time of various models
Lenovo P700/P770i, 2500 mAh, 5V === 1A, 3 – 4 hours
Motorola DROID RAZR MAXX HD, 3300 mAh, 5V === 0.85A, 3 – 4 hours
Cloudfone Thrill 430x, 4160 mAh, 5V === 1A, 5 – 6 hours
Google Asus Nexus 7, 4325 mAh, 5V === 2A, 2 - 3 hours
Charger Models used by various TPC'ers
Magichunter uses Samsung charger rated at 5V ==.7 A
Goldengod uses Blackberry Playbook Charger at 5V == 1.8 A
5thave Alactel charger ?
wuli68 uses Lenovo P700/P700i charger 5V === 1A and Capdase Atom Universal USB charger 5V === 1A
Steelicon recommended Nokia AC-50U Fast efficient charger 5V 1.3A output
cardinalmind uses xperia play charger
ph_fire Send Message View User Items on December 03, 2012 02:49 PM
Tama po yung rating ng charger niyo sir.
Alternative Working Chargers:
01. Samsung Galaxy S2 Micro USB 750mA
02. Joy Factory Power Q Dual USB 2x2.1A
03. Lenovo S880 Single USB 1A
04. Apple iPad 10W Single USB 2.1A (Slow)
05. Apple iPhone 5W Single USB 1.0A (Slow)
06. ZTE MF-30 Single USB 700mA
07. Palm Treo Pro Single USB 1A
08. DIY D-Link 4-Port Wireless USB Hub Converted to 4-Port USB Power Supply 4x750mA
09. Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S charger
10. Samsung Note 2 original charger 2A
-- edited by 5thave on Dec 04 2012, 09:07 PM